http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ Just another bbPress community en Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:39:48 +0000 http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2848 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:38:57 +0000 EL TUCAN 2848@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>YURI FORMAN ON NEXT SUMMER VS CHAVEZ JR </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2677 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:12:15 +0000 carolina bomber 2677@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Patience is a virtue. JR will get his day. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2669 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:25:37 +0000 tuerxter 2669@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>No i dont have anymore fights that "slipped through the cracks" but i do know there are more out there but that shit doesnt matter what matters is the fucken excuses everybody has and i think the kid is going crazy waiting for shit to happen i think if shit doesnt happen soon JR needs to run to golder boy and really get his feet wet. Golden Boy Promotions might not be that great at developing fighters but they will definately put him out there to test the waters against some decent opposition and give hima crack at a belt soon just like they did ortiz he might have lost but hell be more of a well rounder fighter after his loss. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2653 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:00:29 +0000 carolina bomber 2653@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Steve Forbes is way too small, horrible fight. The style is a bad matchup, not a good choice. It's gotta be someone between jr middle and middleweight </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2652 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 04:57:35 +0000 Carolina Bomber 2652@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Giving the guy the benefit of the doubt is hardly nuthugging tuerxter, I mean come on, you cant deny that Chavez Jr has given some pretty good performences. We would all like to see him fight a notable opponent or someone in the top ten at 154. Hopefully we will see it next year. I also dont think a loss is the worse thing that could happen, I think it can be a learning experience. I think we will see the fight we have been waiting for this year. The time has come. </p> <p>That fight with Jorge Paez Jr was hardly an amateur fight. It was an exhibition bout. Entertainment, nothing more. Even if it was an amateur fight, its one fight. that isnt good pedigree lol, thats zero pedigree and zero amateur experience. Sparring doesnt count either, we are talking sanctioned bouts. There are none, all he has is about 39 sanctioned bouts and they are all pro fights. You have any other fights in JR's history that have slipped through the cracks? </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2650 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:01:50 +0000 Rafreg 2650@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>well to me mayorga is a good choice his style is crazy no defense.jr can get him good with his power shots and body punches.2-mayorga trash talks all of his oponents specially if they are mexican he stated in a show he dislikes mexicans,we saw his best drama against dlh and vargas.so all the bull shit he talks always get his oponents realy hot That is what jr needs some one that heats him up good so he could take it all out.he seems very relaxed and calm in his fights </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2649 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:45:15 +0000 tuerxter 2649@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>yeah hell be ok but i think if JR is going to fight a small guy i think steve will tag him up to much plus he was too small for dlh so with jr hell definately be too small heres the thing refreg jr needs to fight not quality opposition just named opposition someone around his size and thats a light puncher like mora plus one thing about JR hes just built big there is no way he can fight at 140-150 shit i dought he can even make 154 now a days so mora manfredo or shit even rubio hes from mexico theyll make it a war then hopefully in about a year i can see him tear up forest </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2648 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:25:42 +0000 rafreg 2648@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>ey tuerxter.what do you think bout steve forbes that 1 guy that fought dlh in a tune up last year.i think he'l be a good oponnent for jr. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2647 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:22:39 +0000 rafreg 2647@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>im sure they sparred alot with others and mess around like when they were young with fighter like in that video. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2644 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:39:49 +0000 tuerxter 2644@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>yeah well but they did and guess what they where getting tagged alot especially in mexico there is alot of tough raw talent in mexico so please lets be fair they did have a decent amateur pedegree but they where done with that since they didnt get to picj and choose their rivals </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2641 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:43:36 +0000 Damian 2641@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>hey tuerxter. I used to live up until a couple of years in culiacan, the chavez hometown, Im pretty sure both sons didnt fight as amateurs that much.</p> <p>Dam. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2632 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:21:02 +0000 tuerxter 2632@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>check this out no amateur career mis huavos<br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAwUdbG0X-Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAwUdbG0X-Y</a> </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2631 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:01:00 +0000 TUERXTER 2631@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Come on that no amateur bullshit you done really believe that shit do you anonymous??? he did have an amater background he has had the gloves on since atleast the age of 8 or 9 if you dont bealeve me google chavez vs paez they had a fight when they where little kids together, and about sr not neing a champ till his 42nd fight that was great and all but lets admitted there was alot of talen out there that sr didnt face while he was a champ but as soon as he became mainstream unfortunately he got his asswhooped by elite black fighters that unfortunately our the Mexican fighters criptonite lol. but most of chavez fans are not asking for a championship fight belts these days dont mean shit all we are asking is for chavez to fight someone who is ranked , shit by now i will place him in the lower 20 jr middle and start working him up from there then atleast we can follow stats on him and bring some credibility to chavez aponents. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2629 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:21:23 +0000 Anonymous 2629@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>julio sr was champion until his 42th or so figth, the difference with Jr is that he didnt have all the world watching and expecting to ko everyone in the 1st round and pushing for championship bout "in septemer 25", im not saying jr is as good as him, but julio was "suposed" to lose that title fight against Azabache Martinez, probably haugen was right and sr ko`d a lot of tijuana taxi drivers, but in the end he proved to be one of the gratest, im not sayin jr would do that either, with no amateur background i dont see anything wrong with fighting lots of minor fighters.</p> <p>Dam </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2628 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:19:29 +0000 tuerxter 2628@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Yeah you might be right guest hopefully hell give us something good ar least a good decent ass whooping in the next couple of weeks </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2627 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:41:58 +0000 Anonymous 2627@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>you know whats the real problem CHAVEZ SR.julio has been wanting to fight a big boy or a champ since 07.but SR doesnt let his kid he wants him undeafeted like he was for many years.its not jr..ITS SR that doesnt let this kid grow once and for all.and to me he realy needs a new trainer. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2626 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:59:46 +0000 tuerxter 2626@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Come on C Bomber quit nut hugging and lets be frank JR is a C- fighter right now and he will continue that way for many years to come if he doesnt get his shit straight 23 is a good age for him to test the water already and if its too much to handle lets begin rebuilding his career but we have to find out how good he can really be a loss isnt exactly the worst thing in your career look at cotto g paquiao marquez mosley these are great fighters, but they lost once, and it made them even better champs in the long run. I just hope JR doesnt end up with a 40-0 or 50-0 record withought really leaving the prospect stage and leaving people still waiting for him. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2623 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:22:54 +0000 Anonymous 2623@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>well i get your point.i mean its impossible for a 23 year old to be as the number1 ppv guy or the welterweight champ of the world that is stupid.lets just be calm and simply wait for this youngster to develop little by little.every boxer has to go from a c fighter to a A fighter.lets just wait for jr to see this 25th.he WILL HAVE TO KNOCK AND DESTROY HIS OPONNENT. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2622 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:05:50 +0000 carolina bomber 2622@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Good choices guest, idk about Margarito though, I know that his best wins are in question now because of the loaded gloves scandal, but he still has world class experience, and still throws 100 punches per round and has a good chin(when not fighting guys named Mosley). I like Mayorga the best, Trinidad is a good option but I don't want the kid to fight at 160, even though he has before. Records may say he fought at 156 but come on, by fight night he is well over 160. Which is why he hasn't looked that good as of late.</p> <p>Another thing I want to say, Chavez isn't a bad fighter, he isn't a C- fighter, I think he has the potential to beat B to B+ fighters, and can be an A lever fighter in coming years, he just needs some consistency. Consistency in training and performence on fight night. He has demonstrated great skill in the Sanchez fight, and in Chavez-Vanda ll. He looked fantastic in those fights. He boxed well and showed power, heart, and a sturdy chin. He has also showed that he is a warrior and does not give up in fights such as Chavez-Vanda l and Chavez-Celaya. He has come from behind to win and showed great heart. He is not a bad fighter, yes we would all like to see him in with better competition, but calling him a bum and a C- fighter is not fair. You cannot question his heart and determination to be a champion. You can question his training habits, and his weight gain in between fights. But I have a feeling that this new training method will prove all his critics wrong. Arum probably brought in Velocity because he sees what we all see, except he gets a first hand look. Look for him to record a KO in his next fight, he has a statement to make. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2621 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:43:20 +0000 carolina bomber 2621@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Yeah DLH fixed the Mayweather so he would lose a SD, and fixed the Pac fight so he could get his ass kicked lmao. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley/page/2#post-2619 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:00:08 +0000 Anonymous 2619@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>id' say you forgot to mention hatton and forest.you know why de la hoya wont come back because i dont think he will be able to buy julio with his millions or fixed the figtht liek he has done with all his fights </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley#post-2618 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:18:42 +0000 Anonymous 2618@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>OK GUYS.after july 25th wich will be his last bum oponent.here are names of possible fighters.not for teh championship not for the fight of the year simply for this 23 yea old kid to finally fight a big name.and shut peoples mouths.here we go im not going to name dlh because people get pissed for some reason LOL.<br /> #1-ricardo mayorga.154<br /> #2felix trinidad.160<br /> #3antonio margacheto.154-margacheto with out his plaster aint nothing.<br /> or if he wants to keep preaparing with bums than,baldomir,gomez are teh options.SO WHAT DO YOU FOLKS THINK?????????????? </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley#post-2617 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:40:25 +0000 Anonymous 2617@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>yes i understand that this is a chavez web site thats why its better to be reall bit to only swing from his nuts i wrote the third to last piece above this one and i cant swing from his nuts at al times i have my ppv money saves for the year and im not spending it on JR unless he fights some decent opposition </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/daniel-santos-vs-chavez-jr#post-2616 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:37:14 +0000 Anonymous 2616@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>And again with the name calling but guest post second to last is right i hadnt seen that avenue a fight manny style fight 2 washed up legends will be great trinidad is fine but he wont be able to make 160, shit, i dont think he can make 175 so might be a little off his weight and thats where problems can happen i think vernon will be great and a brawl with mora due to his contender status... mayorga is definately out of the question he is wild but remember guys like de la hoya and mosley beat him not because they were good but because they can block a punch if mayorga can catch fernando vargas unfortunately JR doesnt have a chance yet. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/daniel-santos-vs-chavez-jr#post-2615 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:12:41 +0000 Anonymous 2615@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>just remember dela hoya wants a big last figth @ azteca mexico city<br /> that can happen on 2010 cinco de mayo vs chavez jr ......<br /> maywheather came back why not delahoya....<br /> hes probably a chicken ???????????????????????????????????????????????? </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley#post-2614 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:06:51 +0000 Anonymous 2614@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>i like it<br /> jr vs santos<br /> or vs mayorga in september </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley#post-2613 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:06:03 +0000 Anonymous 2613@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>just a reminder guys this is for fans talking good about chavez and subjects on hwo his carrer could rise and posible oponnents not come in here saying he aint shit </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/daniel-santos-vs-chavez-jr#post-2612 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:03:37 +0000 Anonymous 2612@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>its not that dude its just that he is young he is 23.from this point and on he should fight bigger oponents no exeptions.there are 2 names for jr for him to gain trust and to rise up.fallow pacquiao's example.YES.fallow manny's example.go for the washed up fighters fighters with name and reputation.dont even say thats not what manny did thats why he looked liek a beast.2 names for jr.mayorga and trinidad if he keeps his promise to fight 1 more but trinidad will only fight at 160 so jr should go for mayorga.HEY.manny pacquiao did this no says anything.de la hoya did it with old chavez and camacho.why not jr. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-jr-vs-shane-mosley#post-2611 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:36:22 +0000 Anonymous 2611@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENDED TO VARGAS!!!!!! The guy came fought became a champion made his millions and decided to enjoy them... thats all i see he was strong he faced great fighters but he didnt back down from anybody.If your version of being great is having a fluffy as record by fighting tijuana taxi driver(yes i did quoted hogan lol) so be it but dont say something is wrong with a boxer just because he lost. Something is wrong with a boxer when not even himself knows what he really has inside </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/daniel-santos-vs-chavez-jr#post-2610 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:31:21 +0000 Anonymous 2610@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Here we go again with the chavez de lahoya assumptions its not going to fucken happen. First Oscar de la hoya is a money hungry fucker and everyone knows that but more than that he will only fight the best. De la hoya is not going to fight jr till (1) He has a tille wrapped around his waist or (2) he beats at least the top 3 fighters at junior middleweight then he can atleast sell the fight, and we know jr isnt fighting anybody not even in the lower 10 which are mora... cintron... phillips... spinks... or even santos as mentioned above.Look im sorry to say this but Arum will keep making an ass out of jr and his followers myself included he knows the reality and it is jr is now a c- fighter as much as it hurts me to say it but thats all hell be thats why he doesnt put him with ranked guys all the fights jr has been fighting in are entertaining indeed but they shouldnt be , jr should be beating the shit out of them with one or two rounds oof action..... In conclusion as long as were stupid enought to keep buying jr ppv's and going to his fights Arum will keep counting the steady revenue that JR keeps bringing him till the cash cow runs out is when hell put him on with a ranked fighter. </p>