http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ Just another bbPress community en Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:53:51 +0000 http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/jcc-jr-vs-carlos-nascimento-at-queretaro-sep-11#post-3655 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:49:38 +0000 ralphy22 3655@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>well the guy as an OK KO% but he is not a known fighter if he faces pavlik in december then its cool but if he goes back to fightign bums all the time not cool </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/jcc-jr-vs-carlos-nascimento-at-queretaro-sep-11#post-3654 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:43:29 +0000 Dam 3654@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Boxrec: Carlos Nascimento</p> <p><a href="http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=189793&amp;cat=boxer" rel="nofollow">http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=189793&amp;cat=boxer</a> </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3649 Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:35:48 +0000 ralphy22 3649@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>i just recently heard this kochules clan is a better than training with roach at thsi point of his carrer omar will fight every 2 months its impossible he can train with roach now roach's main fighters train with him for 8 weeks and fight 2 time a years now montiel trainer will focoused on the punching power no dought roach will try to speed him up i think monitel's trainer is better because omar wont have to come to the US every month to train califronia has strick rules on this why you think manny has to do a training camp once a year in the philipines.motniel's trainer is better if he goes for roach its cool also but he will be train by an assitant trainer not fredie.but defently he needs to leave those LAZY IRESPONSIBLE uncles </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-vs-pavlik-on-december-4th#post-3647 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:03:40 +0000 ralphy22 3647@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>he will train in the philipines so he wont be distracted you know L.A for julio is the same thing as being in mexico alot of fans there.training with the #1 p4p fighter in the world and doing it in another country good stuff.where do you gusy foiund the news i dont see it anywhere???? </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3646 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:01:57 +0000 ralphy22 3646@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>he has mayorquin and benavidez sr.benavidez had his son win 7 times the national championship this 2 trainers take roach's fighters that arent on world championship level roach only puts full work with pacquiao kahn and vanes.Jr?benavidez helped him alot.they have a complete team in that gym its not just roach.guys liek beristain and steward are on they're own </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-vs-pavlik-on-december-4th#post-3645 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:50:51 +0000 CainP 3645@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Yea i too read that Chavez vs Pavlik is being scheduled for dec...I also read that Chavez was going to face some guy named Pawel Wolak (27-1-17ko) in Sept wich now has fallen through and wont fight him...they mentioned this is only a tune-up fight for the Pavlik fight in Dec...Pavlik fight would be crazy!!!...Pavlik some say is finished but if he shows up in shape this could be a very dangerous fight...Pavlik is naturally bigger and pack MAJOR POWER!!!...Jr still is lacking on defense and Pavlik touching him constantly will be very bad since the power is so much dif...It would be interesting to see how Jr looks after a tuneup fight and some real good time w Roach who knows at that time Jr may be on a whole dif level...I read too that Jr will be sparring w Pacman for Mannys fight w Margo...good stuff... </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3644 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:32:23 +0000 CainP 3644@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Yea agree the Businessman nickname is "lame"...Couldnt someone have came up w something better...That sounds like they sat around and said ok you need a nickname and some lame ass in the gym said businessman...Anyway i too have heard of him going to Roach...He will benifit greatly from it but i feel Roach has his hands full and wont be able to REALLY work w him...Hopefully he will... </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3643 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:17:56 +0000 ralphy22 3643@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>the guy is being lazy and not training i can see his body didnt look worked out like the last 2 fights.im still a fan of his i always said it jr has the tools but he needs a world class trainer and i wasnt wrong.omar has more punching power and far tougher than JR </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3642 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:06:04 +0000 Dam 3642@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8JQcij9iTE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8JQcij9iTE</a> </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3641 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:47:18 +0000 Dam 3641@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>It has nothing to do with marco nazareth, its ppl just gettin tired of wathcing the chavez fight against bums, in some way he is paying for jr delay in gettin top competition, but its unbelivable, the guy that he faced last saturday... he ko in the 2d but he could have ko in the first 20 seconds of the fight... i disagree ralphy, he showed a lot of improvement the las 2 fights against arelis lopez and the other guy, buy last saturday it was like omar vs danny devito... of course people were angry, hell I was angry to... instead of bringing that pear shaped guy they shouldave cancelled the fight, fuc"#$ fernando beltran, omar said today "I dont pick my foes, I fight who and where my promoter tells me, its not my fault the other guy had nothing" well its not his fault but hell pay the price. he should go to freddy roach, but he doesnt want to let his uncles down, he needs to let them go now. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3640 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:39:51 +0000 ralphy22 3640@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>roach said it on an interview omar will be here....in his wikiopidia it says omar has switch trainers by advise from julio jr.after the nazareth fight peopel started to hate him everytime in his intro and after the fight he was booed.....i dont know if he is damage from that fight or is it that he just lost the hunger but 1 thing is for sure omar is not the same after that tragic fight </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3639 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:43:57 +0000 Dam 3639@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>They said saturday omar has offerings by roach and the kochules clan who are fernando montiels father and brothers... however he is reluctant to leave his uncles... and he needs to drop that "bussinessman" shit nickname, its also working against him... </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/sturm-mayorga-for-the-wba-middleweight-title-sep4jr-waiting#post-3638 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:00:24 +0000 ralphy22 3638@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>WTH they just change it they had him and mayorga on sep 4th. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/sturm-mayorga-for-the-wba-middleweight-title-sep4jr-waiting#post-3637 Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:57:10 +0000 mic 3637@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Sturm to fight Giovanni Loranzo on Sept 4th. Looks like your right CainP, another sub-par opponent for Sturm. I wonder if Chavez is still in line for the winner in this scenario. Shouldn't they be announcing Jr's next opponent soon? </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3631 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:10:11 +0000 ralphy22 3631@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>no raoch said omar will train with him i dont know why he couldnt for this time roach boxingscene anounce that omar would train with roach but i think he had had a prolem with geting his visa to go and train to california julio ha dthe same problem thats why he only train 4 weeks for duddy </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3629 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:43:06 +0000 CainP 3629@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Omar has a bad rep w fans cause he has been paired w very bad opponents and he looked like crap everytime and he was given gifts like 3 fights in a row...he fought a guy who had a record of like 8-12 at one point something around that number and the guy gave Omar all he could handle and many say he lost the fight but was given a gift...he is losing his rep...He at first was the one people thought would go far but he seems to not care anymore...Omar under Roach would be a monster as well but i honestly dont think Omar has the hunger any more...At this stage of his young career he should be putting these guys w 5-9 records to sleep but he has not and has had to fight for his life...Omar would be nice w Roach but lets be honest Roach has everyone but Superman and Batman in his gym he is FULL...How about Omar trains w STEWARD....we all know the chavez trainers now all suck and are yes men!!! </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/sturm-mayorga-for-the-wba-middleweight-title-sep4jr-waiting#post-3628 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:37:32 +0000 CainP 3628@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Mic you know the WBC...they do what they want and Jr is ranked #1 by the WBC...Sturm would fight Mayorga cause Sturm forever has DUCKED the top fighters around his division...he has remained Champ by fighting sub par opponents...Mayo is pretty much finished so Sturm would gladly accept a fight a against a guy w a name is who is older and is smaller...Jr not ready for a CHampionship fight but he is very close...maybe a fight or two more under Roach and Jr would be ready...There are some paper belts out there that Chavez can fight for now...But the REAL DEAL he needs couple more fights to erase some bad habits </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/sturm-mayorga-for-the-wba-middleweight-title-sep4jr-waiting#post-3625 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:22:10 +0000 mic 3625@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Where is this coming from? I don't think Chavez or Mayorga are even ranked by the WBA. How are they in line for title shots. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/sturm-mayorga-for-the-wba-middleweight-title-sep4jr-waiting#post-3624 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:06:47 +0000 CainP 3624@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Sturm DESTROYS Mayorga!!!...Mayo has been out of action for a while and he is much older now...Sturm beats him all day long for a UD win...Sturm vs Chavez is not a good matchup...Sturm has been Champ for a while and it would not be a good fight for JR...Sturm is too good a boxer at this point...There are many good fights out there for Jr...How bout a fight vs Foreman </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/sturm-mayorga-for-the-wba-middleweight-title-sep4jr-waiting#post-3622 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:39:05 +0000 ralphy22 3622@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>sturm-mayorga for the WBA middleweight title sep4.JR waiting the winner for a december fight and fight for the middleweight championship.who do you guys think wins the sturm-mayorga fight and wich one of the 2 do you like best for julio sturm or mayorga.i liek mayorga because of his popularity and the way he promotes a fight is incredible his insults will bring the best out of jr </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3621 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:43:35 +0000 ralphy22 3621@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>he needs to start trainign with roach and ariza badly. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3620 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:20:02 +0000 Dam 3620@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Im a big chavez fan, and after what i saw i wanted to boo my ass off!!... its not him.. its the way they are matching him with... gee i dont know how to describe his last opponent... tha guy was like 40 something and has the body shape of a pear... it sucked big time... why do that? why? WHY?? </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/omar-chavez-bad-realtionship-with-the-fans#post-3614 Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:00:40 +0000 ralphy22 3614@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>you know comantators said on the fight omar has a bad realationship with the fans i see that after the fight when he gets booed he responds prety much his father does.Jr never did that he ignore them thats why omar gets booed alot.and unfortunally he is not training with freadie roach yet he was training with uncle rodolfo.that was not a good oponent for omar surdently rodrigo juarez and arelis lopez are good oponents for him at this time hopefully he trains with Roach </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/would-mayorga-be-next-yikes#post-3603 Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:51:18 +0000 Dam 3603@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>well mayorga cannot make arrangements cause he is still tied to don king.</p> <p><a href="http://www.laprensa.com.ni/2010/07/20/deportes/32110" rel="nofollow">http://www.laprensa.com.ni/2010/07/20/deportes/32110</a> </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/chavez-vs-pavlik-on-december-4th#post-3601 Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:24:32 +0000 Dam 3601@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>Hey guys, I was watching tv azteca and they said Jr is facing pavlik on dec 12, azteca, top rank &amp; tecate are partners, so now that they azteca is anouncing the bout I think they have a deal, so what do you think? im really looking forward for that, but still no news for the september fight?. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/julio-should-already-have-his-oponent-for-sep11th#post-3599 Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:15:34 +0000 spektor27 3599@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>I think they should have a guy already, its only 2 months away. The december fight against pavlik is a big mistake I think. I really think he should go back down to jr middleweight and over power people at that weight. Cotto or margarito at 154 would be a better pick for the kid. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/julio-should-already-have-his-oponent-for-sep11th#post-3591 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 02:45:23 +0000 ralphy22 3591@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>does anyone know who the openent for jr will be for his sep11th fight? he should have him already?Anyone know who it will be.i hope not a unknown BUM </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/would-mayorga-be-next-yikes#post-3590 Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:45:51 +0000 Cain P 3590@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>I think Jr will stay around 154 to 160...Before he would come in out of shape at 160...w 8 weeks of roach training he would come in ripped at 154...Mayorga fight would be cool id like to see that...Jr would destroy the now older mayorga who has not fight in a while...by the time he shakes the rust Jr will be well ahead and in control...i like that and the Pavlik fight...Jr is ready guys he has the tools looks sharp and focused...w roach an ariza the sky is the limit for Jr and all the people who talk smack will finally shut their mouths...Parte le madre CHavez!!!!! </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/arum-dead-serious-he-is-making-jr-pavlik-fight-dec4th#post-3589 Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:39:23 +0000 Cain P 3589@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>I read on espn that this fight was pretty much a done deal...I wonder if Kelly is just shot and something we dont know cause thats a big jump from Duddy to Pavlik...A real powerful guy who is no joke...Yea he is older but still very dangerous...At this point i think Chavez Jr is ready though...no more baby steps...He was in good shape...8 weeks Chavez will walk in ripped...I think its a good fight and a better step forward for Jr...He has the trainer the coach...i say do it...Let the new legend begin. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/arum-dead-serious-he-is-making-jr-pavlik-fight-dec4th#post-3580 Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:12:35 +0000 mic 3580@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>intererting to see how he'll to against taller guys. I was thinking that Paul Williams would be a good match-up for him. I know most think he'd get killed right not by PW, but PW did not look good in those few rounds with Cintron. I can see Jr. fighting inside on him and going to work on the lanky PW, I'd like to see those body shots.<br /> I think Chavez Jr would have a tougher time with the quicker guys like Cotto and Sergio Martinez. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/arum-dead-serious-he-is-making-jr-pavlik-fight-dec4th#post-3577 Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:07 +0000 armando sanchez 3577@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>you gusy chavez jr does have advantages at this point of kelly pavlik's carrer and alot of peopel know it kelly has serious problems making weight his chin is not an iron chin like duddy its one of the weakest ones in boxing.Jr against kelly can do what he was tought from day 1 fight inside and not give him chance to load that right hand on you chavez will be the smaller guy with the least reach so he could go to infighting.you gusy might think im crazy but cotto would be more of a struggle than kelly.i mean watch kelly carefully he has alot of weaknesses </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/arum-dead-serious-he-is-making-jr-pavlik-fight-dec4th#post-3576 Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:47:13 +0000 ralphy22 3576@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>look forward to see him september 11th </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/arum-dead-serious-he-is-making-jr-pavlik-fight-dec4th#post-3575 Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:44:36 +0000 Dam 3575@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>I think jr doesnt have enough power at 160, and he is not that mobile boxer, if he doesnt hurt kelly, sooner or later it will become a fight inside, like duddy's, and pavlik still has his power, dont think its a good idea right now, maybe roach is wrong, fighting at cowboy stadium against the "son of the legend" its a big motivator, and the ghost can punch, if he works hard and gets in shape for this one, I see a really tough one for jr. </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/arum-dead-serious-he-is-making-jr-pavlik-fight-dec4th#post-3572 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:59:16 +0000 ralphy22 3572@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>roach thinks he is finished that he is washed up.what you guys think.looked really bad against hopkins,martinez.and even against miranda and jermain taylor miranda cought him god once but kelly came back jermain taylor well i think you all saw how pavlik's chin was exposed in that 2nd round.he pavlik has problems with fighters that move and that can punch </p> http://www.chavez360.com/talk/topic/arum-dead-serious-he-is-making-jr-pavlik-fight-dec4th#post-3571 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:05:39 +0000 dmorales 3571@http://www.chavez360.com/talk/ <p>I dont think he is ready for the ghost... he should go down to 154 where he could have more power and can develop a little more working with roach, there are fights with a lot of money involved at 154, including Cotto who is a great fighter and being puertorican its garanteed to sell big time, why riskin it with pavlik? </p>